They say we are never too old to learn and today dad has tought me something new again, and there was me thinking I knew everything hahahahah
So I thought it would be fun to start a new forum on things we didnt know.
Us Lankys are obsessed with pies, well this has nothing to do with Lancashire but sort of to do with pies.

A TIDDLY OGGIE
Am I the only person who didnt know what a tiddly oggie was ???

In Cornwall, a pastie is often called an “Oggie”, and while it is unclear as to where the word originated, some suggest it is derived from hoggan, a kind of bag in which the miners carried their croust. The Cornish miners’ wives developed a simple pastry-cladded envelope, which kept the food warm and free of dust while their husbands worked in the mines. The term became particularly popular in Devonport and Plymouth, where sailers called them “tiddly oggies” (also referred to as Tiddy Oggies or a Tiddy Oggy). Tiddly in naval slang means ‘proper’, a common adjective and adverb used by Cornish people, and so “tiddly oggie” meant proper pastie. Cornish rugby supporters later adopted the chant “Oggie, oggie, oggie, oi, oi, oi!” when cheering on their team. Many people believe this is the origin of the great Aussie chant “Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, oi, oi, oi!”

Yes Siddie I always knew Cornish paties as Tiddy Oggies. Have you ever heard of Cousin Jacks???.

I havent John, go on tell me, this is a better way of learning than going to school hahahah I hated school
Sheila

A Cousin Jack was the name given to Cornish Miners when they worked away from home. The Cornish Miners in the USA were known as Cousin Jacks. Just like a group name for certain people such as Paddies, Jocks, Limeys. etc. But the miners wives used to bake huge Cornish Pasties called Cousin Jacks. I had put the recipe for these big pies in here once before I think. My grandmother would bake us one every Guy Fawkes day.I was born in a village that was built for the Iron Ore miners and a lot of them were recruited from Cornwall.So the wives in the village swapped recipes and my old Gran could make one mean Cousin Jack.I will try and find the recipe again Siddie maybe you could make your own. I know that suet is used in the pastry and lots of cheap available veggies were used at the time . John.

Okay Siddie and the rest of you lot. Here is the recipe for a Cousin Jack. I first tasted it when I was a lad in the Tiny mining Village of Roose on the outskirts of Barrow in Furness in Lancashire. Even though its of Cornish origins it was variations of this Pastie that I ate frequently so its as Lancastrian as we are. hahahahah.
Ingredients:
3 cups flour
1 cup suet, ground fine
1/4 cup lard
1 teaspoon salt
6-7 Tablespoons cold water
1 pound diced or cubed beef
1/2 pound diced or cubed pork
potatoes
turnips
onions
butter
To Make:
Blend lard into flour. Add suet, then cold water.

Roll dough out. Add half inch layer of finely chipped potatoes seasoned with salt and pepper. Then a thin layer of sliced turnips, then a very fine layer of chopped onion. Cover this with part of the beef and pork mixture, season again, adding parsley. Fold dough over, crimp edges. Slit top, put on a greased cookie sheet, and bake at 400 degrees F for 1 hour.

There you go now all you need is some good beer to wash it down with. John.

Sounds lovely John guess what we are having for our tea today hahahah

Awesome wish I was there . Send us your expert reviews please. John.

Here's another Cornish dish for you Siddie; 'Starry Gazey Pie'. This is a fish pie with the heads and tails of the fish (often herring and pilchards) poking through the crust. It originated in the fishing village of Mousehole.

To go back to 'oggies', they were sometimes baked with a meat and veg. filling at one end and an apple filling at the other, so you had two courses in one; similar to a 'Bedfordshire Clanger'.

Thanks for that but no, no I dont do fish, oh heck and with the heads on, oh no, I have 6 cats and fish is for cats yuk. I have heard of Star Gazy Pie and seen pictures and even the picture turns my stomach, and how anyone can eat things like squid I will never know.
I have never heard of a Bedforshire clanger either I think I am going to have to get out more hahahah
Sheila

Siddie, as you said at the start of this thread this site is educational, I had never heard of an Oggie until two or three minutes ago.
Syd.

It always amazes me no matter how long we live there are always new things we are learning.
Dad at almost 85yrs old still says to me, I didnt know that,

Your recipe will be cooking in the oven tomorrow John....If I can manage the amount of suet right this time they'll be so good.
Phil.

Siddie wrote:
It always amazes me no matter how long we live there are always new things we are learning. ...

I think we must forget things. I remember many people in my age group who knew everything when they were teenagers but they don't now.

Sounds good Phil